3 Boxes of BS

Really hard to do, so hard there is a free (at least for today) e-book on how to do it.

Kinda hard to believe the anti-rights cultists when they are yelling we need a law and the federal government in order to do background checks, eh?

Hey you anti-rights cultists protesting the N.R.A. convention; I have a suggestion for you.

Gun control advocates were determined to have a presence outside the convention hall. Across the street Friday, the No More Names vigil read the names of gun violence victims since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre

Instead of reading the names of the victims, why don’t you read the rap sheets and/or mental health records of the people committing committing violent crimes using firearms?
Probably would take you a little longer then the weekend.

* Thirty-six percent of violent felons had an active criminal justice status at the time of their arrest. This included 18% on probation, 12% on release pending disposition of a prior case, and 7% on parole.

* Seventy percent of violent felons had a prior arrest record, and 57% had at least one prior arrest for a felony. Sixty-seven percent of murderers and 73% of those convicted of robbery or assault had an arrest record.

* A majority (56%) of violent felons had a prior conviction record. Thirty-eight percent had a prior felony conviction and 15% had a previous conviction for a violent felony.

And after you are through, you might spend the time needed to get your voice back by listening to the millions of people who have used firearms to stop crime. Of course, that might be too much for you since it would require you to actually have an open mind about the issue.

H/T to Pistolero

I have to give credit to the anti-rights crowd; they always find new and inventive ways to try to insult us.

Richard Warnick, from OneUtah.org, is a great example of this. He calls AR-15s “mass murder weapons” — but thinks it is okay for the police to carry them.

Today, he came up with another new one.

It seems to me the Gun Lobby has two options.

(1) Blow smoke like they always do, and hope that the series of mass shootings last year was a short-lived trend, and hope that eventually people will give up trying to enact common-sense gun safety. Be viewed as unrepentant, uncompromising merchants of death.

Unrepentant, uncompromising merchants of death !!!  Oooohhh, scary bunch of folks aren’t we.

4,300,000  members of the N.R.A.
80,000,000 gun owners in America.

Uncompromising – well based on their definition of compromise; I guess we can say that is accurate. I’m tired of ‘compromising’ away our rights.

Unrepentant — well considering that I’ve done nothing to repent for, you got me Richard.

Merchants of Death? Not even close.

In 2011, the F.B.I. reports 8,583 firearm related homicides. 0.01072875% — even if every murder was a different person; only 0.01072875% of the gun owners were involved in a homicide.  Anti-rights advocates like Richard have to do this, they have to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. They have to resort to name calling because their argument is so weak it doesn’t convince people with reason or logic.

I just have to wonder about the intelligence of people like Richard Warnick. It doesn’t seem the smartest thing in the world to do. I mean trying to restrict the rights of ‘unrepentant, uncompromising merchants of death’.

Yet he can do it safely because he knows how much of a lie it truly is.

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I like to take a look at various rantings of anti-rights cultists because it gives me blog fodder shows me what they are trying to scare people about in order to restrict our rights.

Southern Beale rants about this story and then rants more other accidents.  Let’s not even get into the issue of people assuming nothing is stored in an oven. ( — Hey family pipe down, I only burnt two pizza boxes you left in the oven. I mean seriously who does that???)

**** idiot **** gun loons. These people are irresponsible and should have their carry permit revoked and their gun taken away for a year, at least.

Who the **** sticks a magazine in the oven?

This is what makes me nuts about our gun “debate.” Tragedies like Newtown and Aurora are awful but they are rare. Far more common is **** like this:

I bleeped out her profanity because I try to run a PG-13 blog here. So let’s address her point about how common accidents really are.

I used the CDC WISQARs stats to pull up unintentional non-fatal injury reports. While it is possible that some firearm related injuries are unreported, it is safe to assume most are. It is the law after all. Hospitals and doctors are required to report gun shot injuries.

As always, I try to give every advantage to the antis. The highest number of firearm related injuries from 2001 to 2011 was in 2003  — 18,941. Using the population of the country in 2001 (the lowest) of 284,968,955 that gives us a whopping 0.006646% of the people injured by firearms.
To put it another way; less than One hundredth of one  percent of the country was injured by firearms. Okay…not everyone owns firearms; so 18,941 injuries with an estimated 80,000,000 gun owners gives us 0.0236% of GUN owners injured in a year.

Still not looking like a very common problem eh? How about we deal with only 20% of gun owners; after all probably not everyone uses/touches a firearm every day. 18,941 divided by 16,000,000 = 0.11838%. Now we are getting some place ! Just over at tenth of a percentage of let’s call them ‘active gun owners’ injured — IN A YEAR.

Still not good enough… how about going with just those who have a Concealed Handgun License — approximately 8,000,000 people. 18,941 divided by 8,000,000 equals  0.4735% -
Still less than half a percent.

There is a reason for Southern Beale’s problem — same problem many antis have; logical fallacies

Misleading vividness is a term that can be applied to anecdotal evidence^[1] describing an occurrence, even if it is an exceptional occurrence, with sufficient detail to permit hasty generalizations about the occurrence (e.g., to convince someone that the occurrence is a widespread problem). Although misleading vividness does little to support an argument logically, it can have a very strong psychological effect because of a cognitive heuristic called the availability heuristic.

At least she admitted that incidents like Sandy Hook are rare. Doesn’t stop her from calling for more gun control laws or punishing people for accidents though.

And to put that 18,941 accidental firearm injuries into perspective:

In 2002, there were 500,192 accidental poisoning injuries.
In 2011, there were 179,186 machinery related injuries.
In 2008, there were 400,032 fire/burn injuries.
In 2004, there were 490,112 pedal cyclist injuries.
And in 2003, there were a total of 29,237,747 injuries – meaning that firearm related injuries were 0.06478% of all injuries – less then one-tenth of a percent.

Does it sound like firearm related injuries are ‘common’ to you?

FORT WORTH — The City of Fort Worth is blaming Monday evening’s city-wide 911 outage on a power interruption.

At 6:15 p.m., the city’s 911 call center lost power.

At 6:39, they were able to start rolling 911 calls to the City of Arlington dispatch center. Arlington call-takers answered Fort Worth’s calls and communicated with officers until 6:56, when service to the police side of the call center was restored.

It took more than an hour for the entire system to come back on line at 7:20 p.m.

24 Minutes before the calls were transferred to my city ! Wonder how many people tried, desperately tried to follow the advice given so often “Just call 911″ only to have no answer?
While this type of event may be ‘rare’ as the article suggested; does anyone want to chance it when their life is on the line?
I don’t.

Think carefully about this type of infrastructure failure when the anti-rights cultists are talking about ‘reasonable gun control laws’.

Think carefully about this type of infrastructure failure happening on what was a regular day; not a major terrorist incident or weather related event.

Think about what could happen; not just in the time it takes the police to respond, but the 24 minutes it took for the 911 system to transfer calls. Do you want to be defenseless for that long?

I think I’ll keep my firearms and use 911 as a backup.

Update – Another Quote of the Day from Richard because I simply can not fathom the mindset involved nor the complete lack of understanding.

It’s as absurd and illogical to say I have a constitutional right to own an AR-15 as it would be to claim a constitutional right to own anything else I don’t need that’s a danger to others. The Bill of Rights doesn’t prohibit the government from restricting my freedom in order to promote public safety.

I had to read that line 3 times to be sure he was saying what I thought.

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There are a few quotes that really illustrate the mindset of the anti-rights cultists. This one from OneUtah’s Richard Warnick.

Richard is described by Cliff Lyons as :

As for Richard’s expertise; he is by any standard a top writer/journalist on all things defense, a distinction earned and reflected over YEARS of well researched,exceptionally well-written and sourced articles.

So….top writer and journalist had this to say yesterday:

Thanks for the “Battle of Athens” link. I don’t keep up with Gun Lobby propaganda, so I’d never heard of it. I read it when I have time.

Read that very carefully folks for this is the ‘logic’ and ‘journalism’ that demonstrates the mindset of the anti-rights cultists.

Never heard of it but already convinced it is ‘propaganda’. Yep….don’t confuse him with the facts folks, his mind is made up.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the police officer injured and the deceased criminal. This news article really illustrates what many of us have been saying about enforcing the laws on the books and keeping criminals in jail. (Emphasis mine through out)

A 32-year-old man who was fatally wounded during a shootout Tuesday in Haltom City that left a Fort Worth officer seriously injured was a convicted bank robber who was wanted on three drug-related warrants, records show.

Haltom City police had been trying to stop Cody Ira Loron of Fort Worth in his vehicle as part of a narcotics investigation when he led officers on a chase. He later ditched his vehicle and fled on foot, running to an auto body shop on Carson Street.

Fort Worth motorcycle officer John Bell and another officer had been visiting with the owner of 2nd Opinion Auto Center on an unrelated matter when they learned about the search. An employee then told the officers that the suspect was behind the business.

Cpl. Joe Hackfeld, a Haltom City police spokesman, said Loron was hiding inside a vehicle on the business’s lot.

The officers were looking for him when Loron opened fire, prompting at least one of the officers to return fire, officials say.

The family of the deceased criminal may not appreciate reading this but I feel it needs to be said. First, he was a convicted felon in possession of a firearm — gun control failure.

Next, let’s look at his criminal history.

Federal court records show that in July 2002, Loron pleaded guilty to one count of bank robbery and was sentenced to 78 months in federal prison and three years supervised release.

His parole was revoked in February 2009 for violations that included failing to participate in random drug testing, using and possession of methamphetamines and cocaine, and associating with a known felon. He was sentenced to another year in federal prison and 18 months supervised release

In September 2010, his parole was revoked again after the court found he had used and possessed methamphetamine and failed to appear for drug testing. He was sentenced to another six months in prison, records show.

In Tarrant County, in November 2011, Loron received three years deferred adjudication probation after pleading guilty to attempting to possess a controlled substance (methamphetamine), a state-jail felony.

Last month, a warrant was issued for his arrest after he failed a drug test and failed to appear in court, according to Tarrant County court records.

At that time, warrants were also issued on two other charges against Loron, one for possession of a controlled substance and the other for delivery/manufacturing of a controlled substance, both involving methamphetamines.

Pled guilty to only 1 count of bank robbery; does anyone believe that he only committed the one crime and pled guilty? I haven’t found his criminal charges yet but I’m betting he was charged with more then one crime and the prosecutor bargained away charges that could have kept him in jail much longer.

Then before he even completes probation, he is using drugs again and associating with known felons. This pattern is repeated over and over again.

We talk about the revolving door of the justice system and here it is.

5, 6 times this man had an opportunity to get his life together and be a part of society and each time the ‘justice system’ returned him to the streets after he proved he was unwilling to abide by the laws of society.

I’m not an advocate of the ‘War on (Some) Drugs’ by any means but I do believe that society has a responsibility to keep those who prove unable/unwilling to abide by the norms out of society.

This man proved that repeated. It wasn’t the gun, it wasn’t enough the justice system (as much as it played a part) that shot the officer; it was a man who broke the rules.

How will making it harder for Aunt Tilda or Jane Q. Citizen to get an AR-15 or Concealed Carry pistol affect crime like this?

It won’t and the antis know it. Don’t buy into the lie. Don’t forget one important part in all this — the Courts are just as much a part of the government as the Executive Branch and the Legislative branch. Government isn’t the solution, it is part of the problem folks.

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