Hey President Obama !

One of those things that just don’t happen in other countries happened again.

(CNN)[Breaking news update, published at 9:30 a.m. ET]

Twelve people — including five Malian soldiers — died as a result of a hostage situation and ensuing battle between the attackers and soldiers at a Mali hotel, Malian state-run broadcaster ORTM reported Saturday.

Earlier, a spokesman for Mali’s President told CNN that officials believed the dead included five soldiers, four attackers and three civilians, but that the toll had yet to be confirmed.

I’m just wondering why the President of the country felt it was necessary to lie.

Could it be, like most other anti-rights cultists, he has to lie in order to push gun control?

Been A While

Since I’ve fisked something. Let’s see if I still have what it takes. Of course, I’m starting back with an easy target – maybe it is white privilege; everything defaults to ‘easy’.

 

CNN)Last month, a gunman in a Louisiana movie theater killed two people and injured nine others before shooting himself with a gun he’d legally purchased.

Okay, let’s talk about a month old incident that has been thoroughly covered and dissected while ignoring the violence that occurs day and day out. Let’s ignore the number of times firearms have been used to stop a crime or save a life.…oh no, what is important is dancing in the blood of the dead.

On Wednesday, a man with what looked like a real semi-automatic pistol in a Nashville movie theater sprayed patrons with pepper spray and hit one with a hatchet before police — apparently believing he had a real gun — shot him dead.

Armed with ‘what looked like a real semi-automatic pistol’ — that is what you lead with? Not the one person actually injured with the hatchet? Gee, can you say fixated?

Summer is high season for movie-going, but who among us will not carry in the back of our minds — as we settle into our seats in a darkened roomful of strangers — that anything is possible in a society so saturated with guns.

You probably don’t mean that a firearm I carry can save my life or that a firearm I keep at home can keep my family safe type “anything is possible”. You probably don’t mean that in our ‘society so saturated with guns’ firearm related crime, deaths and injuries have been trending down.

That the alleged assailant in Nashville, Vincente David Montano, was wielding a pellet gun that only, quite convincingly, looked like a real gun changes the outcome, but not the terror. Some of us may decide going out to the movies isn’t worth it.

So unlike many gun owners and those who carry in public; it seems that you are advocating living in fear and changing your to reflect that. While we can agree that avoiding bad places is a good strategy; those who carry make rational decision (carry) and continue to interact in public; not hide away because of the actions of a few.

This would constitute a change in our consumer habits. And it has an economic effect. This is something that has gone largely unspoken in the debates about gun control and concealed carry that follow upon each shooting: the ever-rising economic toll of gun violence in our country and the role that American business can play in advocating for more stringent gun controls.

Again let’s not look at the positives – Kroger stock up after Moms Demanding Attention called for a boycott because of Open Carry.

The total economic impact of the firearms and ammunition industry in the United States increased from $19.1 billion in 2008 to $42.9 billion in 2014, a 125 percent increase, while the total number of full-time equivalent jobs* rose from approximately 166,000 to more than 263,000, a 58 percent increase in that period, according to a new report released today by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the industry’s trade association

How much are companies actually losing due to firearm related crimes? Probably not nearly as much as the industry generates.

Imagine, for example, that gun death was so rare in America, that the bizarre Nashville incident could be viewed as just an aberration, not a chilling reminder of our ongoing reality. Americans are killing each other with guns in staggering numbers, and yet American business has failed to seriously engage with the negative effects of gun violence on national well-being, productivity and prosperity. Ted Miller, a researcher at the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, crunched the numbers for a Mother Jones report and came up with a $229 billion a year price tag for direct and indirect costs of gun violence.

Never mind the incredible number of issues with the Mother Jones Report. Let’s talk about how you conflate the every day violence in our community with the ‘aberration’ that mass shootings like Nashville truly are. Let’s talk about how we can address the violence in our communities without restricting our rights…..we can do that but that isn’t what you want, is it?

Both small-business owners and human resources executives in large corporations know the economic ripple effect these broad figures reflect: consumers shunning businesses touched by gun violence, days lost from work while families grieve, businesses closed temporarily after shootings, good workers diminished by the physical or mental consequences of witnessing or being direct victims of gun violence.

Care to talk about the number of lives saved, crimes stopped, property protected by gun owners? Nope. I love that ‘witnessing or being direct victims of gun violence’ — under 400,000 firearm related violent crimes a year — let’s be generous and say 3 victims each crime and 5 witnesses? 2.1 million people affected out of 122 Million people employed — 1,72%. Really a huge impact eh? Never mind that 18.9 million people are affect directly by non-firearm related crime at least each year.

The strength of the gun lobby in America and the fears of some that they will lose rights conferred, they say, by the Second Amendment are only part of the reason such topics are mostly avoided in the business world, including in the business media. Our attachment to guns crosses lines of race, gender and sexual orientation: it is a national disposition. Who wants to mess with that?

You knew the “gun lobby” was going to make a showing here sometimes and she doesn’t disappoint. Who was it that said “there is strength in numbers”? The Gun lobby is made up of millions and millions of gun owners. Heck the NRA alone has over 4 million members !
And NO – our rights are not conferred by the 2nd Amendment; they are protected by it. A huge difference. And it isn’t just us saying this ! 5 Supreme Court Justices agree

c. Meaning of the Operative Clause. Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation. This meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the Second Amendment . We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment , like the First and Fourth Amendment s, codified a pre-existing right. The very text of the Second Amendmentimplicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.” As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553(1876) , “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed … .”16

So what part of that is hard to understand? Did Scalia use too big of words for you?

And many exercise their rights to open carry, never thinking they are creating alarm in their fellow citizens and creating disruptive security situations. In June, a man brought a fully loaded rifle into the Atlanta airport — a major hub of business travel — when he and his wife dropped off their daughter for a flight.

My right to keep and bear arms does not end at the start of your fears or anyone else’s – sorry to be rude but Screw you if you think it does. There are no good numbers on how many people Open Carry day in and day out – without people panicking. I find it illustrative of how weak your argument is there is only one incident listed. That there are so few reports; usually of people over reacting, to common people doing a common event – Open Carrying. Shouldn’t that tell you people might not be as be fearful as you think?

We have changed our collective mind about large social issues in the past: women now have the right to vote, racial intermarriage is no longer forbidden, homosexuality is no longer considered an illness, same-sex marriage is now a right and smoking is no longer chic.

On those topics, business has helped to set a new tone for America. But on the issue of gun control, there has so far been no tipping point. We continue to mow down our leaders (Charleston), our children (Newtown) and our work force (Louisiana, most recently), with collateral damage that harms the economy and weakens us as a nation.

Gee — I thought that facts that 50 states having some form of Carry, that 8 states now or soon will be Constitutional Carry, that 45 states now allow Open Carry (Finally Texas !!!) — and millions of people have carry licenses, 55 million people or more own firearms –might be a clue that we have made up our ‘collective mind’ about the Right to Keep and Bear Arms ! What you really mean, in my opinion, is we haven’t came to the conclusion you want and give up our firearms.

America’s economic leaders should apply the boldness and tenacity that fuel national enterprise to the task of shifting the conversation about gun control in this country. They will face opposition at first, but they will be making a necessary investment in our human capital and in our collective prosperity.

I agree ! We need economic leaders to apply that boldness and tenacity to push for less gun control. For greater freedom in our right to keep and bear arms; let’s reduce the number of mandated ‘gun free zones’ where people are disarmed victims, Let’s make it easier for people to carry firearms across state lines without risking arrest. Let’s make it easier for people to buy firearms – we can put the criminals in jail and the mentally ill in hospitals to get help so we the ‘good guys’ with guns aren’t confused with the ‘bad guys’ or mentally ill. I don’t think the economic impact will be as bad as you anticipate; name a successful boycott by the gun control crowd.

Just my two cents…..please join the conversation.

 

 

It’s Just A Fist Fight

One of the many lies  of the antis — it’s just a fist fight, no need to carry a weapon.

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Not a single weapon used !!

I wish we could get rid of that stupid meme of the antis but they will keep mindless chanting it regardless of reality.

Having a firearm might not have helped this guy. Of course had he been carrying, he might have shown a little more situational awareness and not walked into a group like that. But how brave would a group like that be if they thought one in five, one in ten of the people they were going to assault (or witness an assault) might be armed?

 

 

Hypocrisy Illustrated

President Obama is calling for more gun control laws...citing it as one of the most frustrated, most stymied area of his presidency.

Washington (CNN)One of President Barack Obama’s greatest frustrations is his inability to pass stricter gun laws, he told the BBC Thursday just hours before a mass shooting in a Louisiana theater.

“If you ask me where is the one area where I feel that I have been most frustrated and most stymied, it is the fact that the United States of America is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient, common sense, gun safety laws,” Obama said. “Even in the face of repeated mass killings.”

Of course, what he doesn’t address is the fact his administration has enabled multiple criminals including the assailant in Garland Texas !! For those of you who might not know; Garland is only 40 miles or so from Bunker BS.

Five years before he was shot to death in the failed terrorist attack in Garland, Texas, Nadir Soofi walked into a suburban Phoenix gun shop to buy a 9-millimeter pistol.

At the time, Lone Wolf Trading Co. was known among gun smugglers for selling illegal firearms. And with Soofi’s history of misdemeanor drug and assault charges, there was a chance his purchase might raise red flags in the federal screening process.

Inside the store, he fudged some facts on the form required of would-be gun buyers.

What Soofi could not have known was that Lone Wolf was at the center of a federal sting operation known as Fast and Furious, targeting Mexican drug lords and traffickers. The idea of the secret program was to allow Lone Wolf to sell illegal weapons to criminals and straw purchasers, and track the guns back to large smuggling networks and drug cartels.

Five years – this wasn’t a “hey, he bought the gun and did something the next day.” this was years ago. With the government knowing who sold the gun and who bought the gun.

Soofi’s attempt to buy a gun caught the attention of authorities, who slapped a seven-day hold on the transaction, according to his Feb. 24, 2010, firearms transaction record, which was reviewed by the Los Angeles Times. Then, for reasons that remain unclear, the hold was lifted after 24 hours, and Soofi got the 9-millimeter.

As the owner of a small pizzeria, the Dallas-born Soofi, son of a Pakistani American engineer and American nurse, would not have been the primary focus of federal authorities, who back then were looking for smugglers and drug lords.

 

They had reasons to believe he was prohibited. Other reports mention some type of charge/conviction against Soofi, the failed terrorist. They placed a hold and then lifted it 24 hours later. And apparently failed to follow up on it in 5 years.

A day after the attack, the Department of Justice sent an “urgent firearms disposition request” to Lone Wolf, seeking more information about Soofi and the pistol he bought in 2010, according to a June 1 letter from Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, to U.S. Atty. Gen. Loretta Lynch.

Though the request did not specify whether the gun was used in the Garland attack, Justice Department officials said the information was needed “to assist in a criminal investigation,” according to Johnson’s letter, also reviewed by The Times.

Hey President Obama, before you start pushing for more gun control laws; how about you and your administration follow the ones already on the books !!!!

 

 

Really Mr. President?

“This type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency.”

— Barack Obama on Thursday, June 18th, 2015 in remarks at the White House

As usual the gun control advocates – aka Anti-Rights Cultists — will try to weasel out of it citing the ‘advanced’ countries specification. As if the people of a high GDP country are any more moral or ethical than anyone else.

In Tunisia, a gunman killed 37 people, mostly tourists, at a seaside resort. In Kuwait, an Islamic State suicide bomber killed at least 27 people at a Shiite mosque. In France, a driver rammed his truck into a U.S.-owned gas factory, where a decapitated body was found with the head hanging at the entrance. In all, at least 65 people were killed across the three continents.

I wonder how Tunisia and Kuwait feel about being left of of the “advanced” country status. Of course, France doesn’t qualify because – well only one person was killed there, right?

Of course even Politifact is having to spin unsuccessfully President Obama’s claim.

We compared mass shooting incidents across countries is to calculate the number of victims per capita — that is, adjusted for the country’s total population size.

Calculating it this way shows the United States in the upper half of the list of 11 countries, ranking higher than Australia, Canada, China, England, France, Germany and Mexico.

Still, the U.S. doesn’t rank No. 1. At 0.15 mass shooting fatalities per 100,000 people, the U.S. had a lower rate than Norway (1.3 per 100,000), Finland (0.34 per 100,000) and Switzerland (1.7 per 100,000).

We’ll note that all of these countries had one or two particularly big attacks and have relatively small populations, which have pushed up their per-capita rates. In Norway, that single attack in 2011 left 67 dead by gunfire (plus additional bomb casualties). Finland had two attacks, one that killed eight and one that killed 10. And Switzerland had one incident that killed 14.

Still, while the United States did rank in the top one-third of the list, the fact that three other countries exceeded the United States using this method of comparison does weaken Obama’s claim that “it doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency.” In at least three countries, the data shows, it does.

Elsass warned PolitiFact of a few caveats about the data. While they believe their database “to be among the most exhaustive compilations available,” Elsass noted that it may not include every instance of mass shootings. It also doesn’t include every example of mass killings — just those committed by firearms, even though mass stabbings are not uncommon in such places as China. Finally, their database doesn’t include acts generally considered to be terrorism, such as the attack in Paris on the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

“If these were included, we are likely to see something much different statistically as there have been a number of very high-profile terrorist attacks in Europe, some including the use of firearms, that are excluded from the current analysis,” she said. But in all likelihood, this would only make the case against Obama’s claim stronger.

Emphasis mine – I don’t mind talking about the issues. I don’t mind admitting that America, for whatever reasons, is more homicidal then many other countries. But let’s be honest in our debate.

Please join the discussion. 

Lies of the Antis – Part 89,002….

or higher. I loose track. This news article has two of my lies the anti rights cultists tell often.

#1 — That defensive gun uses really don’t happen.
#2 — That even if you carry/have a firearm; it won’t do you any good once the criminal(s) drop on you.

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One of the other things that came out of this anecdote is the how the firearm provided an equalization; one elderly man was able to overcome the actions of 3 younger – and one of them armed – men.

The news media is starting to cover more and more of these stories; actually reporting on the specifics instead of playing up the “man with gun kills choir boy turning his life around” angles.

P.S. – anyone else catch another lie – this one wasn’t stated in the report or the victims words?

Couple of Questions Mr. Obama.

……you said these types of killings don’t happen in other developed countries.

Gunmen stormed a beer hall in northern Mexico in broad daylight on Friday, killing 10 people before stripping the bodies and stealing all their money, police said.

Several armed men arrived in two vehicles before attacking people inside the bar in the municipality of Garcia at around 3pm, an official in the state prosecutor’s office said.

The assailants stripped seven bodies naked and left with 10,000 pesos ($650) in cash, the official said on condition of anonymity.

So does this killing not count because Mexico isn’t “developed”?
Or does it not count because there wasn’t an obvious race issue involved?
Or does it not count because Mexico has the type of restrictive gun control laws you only dream about?