Mass Casualty Event – Not Firearm Related

Remember this news report every time the antis tell you we can’t compare automobiles and firearms.

A charter bus in northern Oregon skidded on ice, crashed through a guardrail and tumbled several hundred feet down a steep embankment on Sunday morning, spilling passengers along the way.

“I’ve been a firefighter for 20 years and this is the first time I’ve ever seen anything like this,” Pendleton, Oregon, fire Lt. Steven Brost told CNN affiliate KPTV. “It appeared that most of the patients had actually been ejected from the bus as the bus went down the cliff.”

Nine people died in the crash, according to Oregon State police. At least 26 people were transported to St. Anthony Hospital in Pendleton for treatment. Five of them were later transferred to another hospital.

My sympathy and prayers go out to the families involved in this horrific incident. Also to the families in China suffering the loss of 11 children in another incident.

These reports will be in the news for a couple of hours then it will fade out. Just like the rest of the mass casualty events involving automobiles. And the nearly hourly litany of collisions, deaths and injuries.

I subscribe to a Facebook page called “DFWSCANNER”; it is a  great service that monitors police and fire radios and reports on current events. Most of the posts shown on it never make it to the newspaper or the broadcast media services because they happen so frequently it just isn’t news worthy any longer. Sad that the media has decided that more people dying in automobiles isn’t as news worthy as firearm related deaths.

I don’t mean to sound callous, I’m just trying to point out the fact that while 84 people per day die in firearm related incidences; it is an incredibly low number when you look at how many people die every day.

The anti rights cultists are well known for throwing that number – 84 deaths per day- around in order to make an emotional impact.  Like this


It’s sad that it took this horrible, horrible act to finally wake up America, the President, and other leaders.  84 deaths a day weren’t enough.

Notice the complete lack of context on ‘deaths per day’?

Would it make an impact if they said “Out of the 6,677 people who die every day, 84 (1.26%) are firearm related”?

That’s right, 6,677 people die each and every day according to the C.D.C.

1. Heart Disease 1,642
2. Cancer 1,555
3. Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease 376
4. Stoke 353
5. Accidents 323
6. Alzheimer’s Disease 216
7. Diabetes 188
8. Influenza / Pneumonia 147
9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis 134
10. Suicide 101
and Motor Vehicle deaths — 94

Some of the Accidents and about 60 percent of the suicides are firearm related. I’m not trying to minimize the death of even a single person Just providing some context to the numbers. If we, as a country, worked to reduce Heart Disease 5% that would save almost as many people per day as those ‘firearm related deaths’.  Isn’t it Common Sense to try to reduce the largest problems first?

How does restricting the rights, freedom and liberty of millions based on the criminal actions of a few make sense? We are better then this.

Please join the discussion.


3 Responses to this post.

  1. Posted by RabidAlien on 31.12.12 at 07:28

    There ya go, trying to introduce logic, reasoning, and verifiable data into a purely emotional, knee-jerk, everybody-should-just-do-as-we-want-and-the-world-will-be-a-happy-place screaming tantrum.

  2. Posted by sfcmarkc on 31.12.12 at 07:28

    “I don’t mean to sound callous, I’m just trying to point out the fact that while 84 people per day die in firearm related incidences; it is an incredibly low number when you look at how many people die every day.”
    Keep in mind that the 84 per day number is one used by the Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center. Since I have found them to be guilty of cherrypicking data in the past, I went to what I consider to be a more neutral source to check. They also like to use the 32 gun homicides per day number also. In 2011 the FBI said there were 8,853 gun homicides. This works out to 24 per day. That would also have an effect on the 84 per day number which also includes homicides.
    I currently dont know of a neutral source for accidental gun deaths and suicides so I cant speak to that portion of the 84 per day number. However I did find this just out that talks to some of the numbers:
    Have you had any experience with this site and their veracity?

  3. Posted by Bob S. on 31.12.12 at 07:28

    SFC Mark C,

    The number is accurate if suicides, justifiable homicides and legal interventions are included in the total. I’m trying to be as generous as possible with their argument to show that the ‘utility argument’ doesn’t carry much weight.

    19 times as many people die of Heart Disease; if the antis were really interested in saving the most number of lives; why don’t they focus on the top reasons for deaths?

    I have found Fact Check to be generally reliable but biased in some of their reasoning. They really stretch and distort things to support those on the seeking more governmental control.