Yet Another Defensive Gun Use

Police said a 77-year-old East Texas man fatally shot a would-be burglar who broke into his home Tuesday morning.

Tyler Police Detective Andy Erbaugh said Bobby Shaw fatally shot 44-year-old Luke Garrison of Brownsboro in the chest with a shotgun. Erbaugh said Garrison was shirtless and wielding an unspecified tool.

Shaw — who lives alone — said Garrison charged at him.

Garrison’s widow told police that he suffered from mental health problems.

No other injuries were reported.

An autopsy has been ordered. Police are investigating.

I recently was in a discussion about something every much like this with another blogger; he wants to change the law to make it harder for people to defend themselves.

“I was afraid” is no more a justification for the taking of a human life than “I was drunk” would be.

The right of self-defense should only apply to those whose lives are in actual danger, not those reacting to an imaginary danger.

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But with rights go responsibilities. I believe people who claim a right to defend themselves with lethal force have a responsibility to verify that they actually are in danger.

I tried to make a point about how difficult it would be to determine ‘actual danger’ versus ‘imaginary danger’ in situations like the one Mr. Shaw faced.
So using Phil’s idea — how in the world could Mr. Shaw ‘verify’ he was in ‘actual danger’?
Should he ask “Hey you, the person who has broken into my house, what are you doing here?” and have to wait for an answer ? I guess having the intruder start shooting would be an answer, having the intruder beating him would be an answer.
But that brings up other questions; is a simple punch enough ‘actual danger’? Should he have to wait until he sustains “X” number of blows?

Or what happens if the intruder say “I’m just here to rob you” ? Does the home owner have to allow the robbery because he is in no ‘actual danger’?
Which we all know has to be a truthful answer because criminals never lie, right?
I’ve tried to wrap my mind around ways that a reasonable person could ‘verify’ (s)he was in ‘actual danger and I just don’t see a safe or sane way it could be done.

I want to give this serious consideration so I’m going to turn to my 4 readers for advice and ideas.

Can you of any ways a person could reasonable determine if they are in ‘actual danger’ in these scenarios?

  1. An intruder in their home in the middle of the night
  2. Someone pounding on the door in the night

But They Had The Drop On Her…..

…..it isn’t supposed to be possible for someone to defend themselves after the bad guys pull out their handguns; right?

Don’t tell it to this lady!

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Going to be a little mean and put the criminals names out there; they aren’t killers and given how they were caught, I think their friends and future cell mates might want to know they got punked by an old lady.

The Springdale Police Department made two arrests on Saturday (Dec. 6th) in connection to an armed robbery in Springdale.

Marcus Gould, 25, and Leon Roberson, 20, face charges of Attempted Capital Murder and Aggravated Robbery, according to police. Roberson was booked into the Washington County Detention Center at 1:55 a.m. and is set to appear in court for an 8.1 Hearing on Monday (Dec. 7th), according to the detention center’s website.

Police said the incident happened around 9 a.m. Saturday at the C & S Gun and Pawn Shop at 1208 South Thompson in Springdale.

Employees reported two men walked into the store, one wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt and the other wearing an orange hooded sweatshirt, police said.

“They split up, they both pulled out hand guns that looked like black semi-automatic pistols and began to rob the store,” according to Lt. Derek Hudson with the Springdale Police Department. “One of the employees also pulled out a weapon and there were shots exchanged.”

The suspects then fled the store on foot, leaving several shell casings and blood on the floor, according to police.

For those use you who didn’t watch the video — that’s right. Guns drawn, ready to throw down and one was shot by the owner. Guess that meme about once you are under the gun it is impossible to fight back is busted.

In an email, Sergeant Daniel Grubbs with the Fort Smith Police Department, said Gould arrived at Sparks Hospital with a gun shot wound to the forearm.

No word on how serious of a wound it was but I’m betting if Gould ever tries his hand again, he’ll tell his partner “Bring me my Brown Pants” before the robbery. Great job Ms. Shirley, If I am ever in your city, I would like to buy you and your husband dinner. Keep fighting back.

 

 

To Paraphrase A Movie….

…..‘you don’t need no stinkin’ privacy’!

 

This week, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced the release of the Federal Health IT Strategic Plan 2015-2020, which details the efforts of some 35 departments and agencies of the federal government and their roles in the plan to “advance the collection, sharing, and use of electronic health information to improve health care, individual and community health, and research.” The plan is illustrated with the following graphic:

The ‘community’??? Just what information is the ‘community’ going to know about my health – or yours?

Nor do I think the government has any business knowing my health issues or status.

Each step of the plan includes three-year and six-year goals, and the various goals, depending on their focus, require the involvement of department and agencies as disparate as the Department of Defense, the Federal Trade Commission, and NASA, in addition to the expected participation of entities such as HHS, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and the Indian Health Service. The report includes a comprehensive list of all departments and agencies involved:

The Department of Education? Justice department and Bureau of Prisons; just exactly what is the government planning on doing with my medical records, eh? Look at the agencies that will be able to ‘share’ your medical records, consider the number of people that will be able to access it. Consider the number of potential security weak points that hackers could use to gain that information. Then tell me how it will benefit me in the long run or at all?

I’m the only one feeling a little distrustful of our government now days?

 

 

On Selling Loosies –

Can we do away with the idea that ‘selling loosies’ is just some minor violation of a city ordinances

The truth is much more complex than that. First and foremost, the people selling ‘loosies’ often place themselves in front of retail stores. They cost those stores customers. Customer who might go in and purchase other items besides just a pack of smokes. So between the revenue lost from selling singletons and the impulse purchases, it can be a hardship on stores. And let’s be realistic, it ain’t cheap to run a business in New York City.

How bad is it ? I don’t know. I did find a site that helps determine what permits or licenses apply

NYC Tax and Permits

I had to include the cigarette vending machine — probably doesn’t apply but the site is kinda wonky about the questions asked. — but that is 10 or 11 requirements someone selling a ‘loosie’ fails to comply with. I  wonder how much money the city, state and federal government looses every year to unreported income. How many people aren’t helped because the tax dollars aren’t to run the shelters, feed the homeless, or keep a medical clinic open. And how many people with unreported income are still getting welfare benefits that could be used to help the lives of others?

I wonder how many times the courts are clogged with low level arrests like this instead of dealing with aggravated assaults, rapes, murders; think of the number of hours dedicated to stopping people from this type of  crime.

And that doesn’t even address federal law either.

 

FDA Flyer and page

What a minute ! It’s against federal law to sell ‘loosies’? yep, appears so. Now again, I don’t agree with the laws in place, but as we gun owners are so often reminded; we have recourse to change the law without resorting to violence. This is nanny state government at it’s most inane; we pass laws that have good intentions (we will make you be healthy) and forget those laws are enforced with violence as the ultimate resort.

Guess it just chaps me to see this issue downplayed. It isn’t a simple traffic violation — running a stop sign in the middle of the night when no one else is around — it is an economic crime. One personally I don’t think should be on the books, maybe this will help drive a few more people into the libertarian/conservative ‘small government’ camp.

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Anecdote Against Stun Guns

I realize this is just one case but it really shows the reason I don’t advocate Tasers - this video, sorry CNN doesn’t allow embedding.

Now imagine instead of trying to get away from the police; that thug is trying to attack you or a loved one. Even the use of the stun gun in ‘drive stun’ mode didn’t work. Again, instead of trying to get way…imagine him trying to attack you.

It took the arrival of another set of officers and another Taser to bring him down.

 

Many people do like tasers and that is their choice, I respect it. For me, I’ve seen too many instances where they fail when most needed.

 

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This is …….Hilarious

Not every manager, not every supervisor, not every chain is so buttoned down the people can’t have a little fun.

 

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Glad to see a little spirit is still going out there.

Why Can’t We Get Along?

Because we can’t even agree on the meaning of basic and common words.

The last time Frank Rich had a conversation with Chris Rock was in early 1996, when they and the 1950s teen heartthrob Pat Boone were thrown together in a New York television studio as panelists on Bill Maher’s old show Politically Incorrect. This time they had two conversations in a New York hotel lounge as Rock prepared for the release of Top Five, a bittersweet film comedy in which he does triple duty as director, screenwriter, and star.

We’ve just come through an election that was a triumph for Fox News and a fiasco for Obama. What do you make of it?

Jon Stewart has said the reason Fox News works better than CNN is because the people at Fox News figured out how to make themselves into victims.

Fox News portrays themselves as victims? I can see some of that; a few of the commentators play that aspect (cough** Bill O’Reilly** cough) too often for my taste. Which is why i don’t often watch that show. But come on, CNN specializes and positively luxuriates in throwing out the victim card so often the writing has worn off it.

 

So will it now be harder for Republicans to play victims?

They have no problem playing victims.

Even in victory?

Even in victory. America — not black America, but America as a whole — started in England and was ruled by kings and queens and had a class system. I’m almost of the mind that that’s what America wants at the end of the day. Maybe America wants monopolies.

Chris, do you know what the word ‘monopoly’  means? Perhaps you were thinking of “monarchy”?

They always seem to want a Bush or a Clinton.

Maybe they just want a Bush. Maybe they want no regulations. It’s hard for me to figure out people voting against their own self-interests. At some point you go, Okay: Is that what they want?

 

Two points on this really stands out. First the straw man argument that we want no regulation. Makes it easy to say ‘Hey, it is just one small regulation/law/restriction” and ignore the thousands of others already on the books.
Seconds, not everyone only votes based on self interest – perhaps that is a little insight into the mind of Chris Rock ? A psychological slip letting us know what is his primary focus when voting.
Most of the people I know don’t just vote for what works best for us; we consider society in general, we consider the history and values of our country, we consider the principles upon which America was founded and try to vote for the candidate or positions that best reflect that.
Sometimes it is directly contrary to our best interests; we vote that way because it is good for us in the long run but also because we know there has to be some give and take in the process. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to live in any place that voted only for the people’s own self interest; be the people conservative or liberal.

 

Is it possible that they’re just angry, whether it’s anger at Obama or Washington in general, and they just want to lash out? If you’re angry, you don’t rationally consider what’s in your self-interest.

Maybe. But we had Bush for eight years. They saw what that was. Apparently a lot of people want to go back to that. A lot of people think rich people are smart.

 

Another straw man argument…..unfortunately only partially. Yes some people want to go back to ‘the Bush years’. Personally I would love to go back further than that but let’s start with Bush and then repeal the PATRIOT Act and other grievous harms to our rights. Let’s roll back the ‘War on Drugs’, the “War on Terror” took too many cues from that power grab. Let’s roll back the restrictive regulations that keep on growing no matter if there is a -D or -R after the Presidents name. Yes, I want to go back….but not in anger. Not at any race, not at any political party, nor any social class (which is why the liberals amaze me at how focused they are on class warfare — often attacking the rich.)

And notice also the implication that conservative = rich.

For all the current conversation about income inequality, class is still sort of the elephant in the room.

Oh, people don’t even know. If poor people knew how rich rich people are, there would be riots in the streets. If the average person could see the Virgin Airlines first-class lounge, they’d go, “What? What? This is food, and it’s free, and they … what? Massage? Are you kidding me?”

Again this is a case of absolutely not understanding what a word means. Chris if you think that food in the lounges is ‘free’ you need to go back to grade school; learn the meaning of words and then take a few business or economic classes. just for kicks and grins; I priced a trip from Dallas to LA. on Virgin Airlines.

Main Cabin — $268, Main Cabin Select – -$603, First Class – $903.

Guess that pays for that food in the lounge Chris?
And if you are so concerned about income inequality what are you doing about it? $70,000,000 would go along way in helping a lot of folks out.

 

What do you make of the attempt to bar Bill Maher from speaking at Berkeley for his riff on Muslims?3

Well, I love Bill, but I stopped playing colleges, and the reason is because they’re way too conservative.

 

Colleges are too conservative in their views ! Do you even know the difference between conservative and liberal !!!!

 

In their political views?

Not in their political views — not like they’re voting Republican — but in their social views and their willingness not to offend anybody. Kids raised on a culture of “We’re not going to keep score in the game because we don’t want anybody to lose.” Or just ignoring race to a fault. You can’t say “the black kid over there.” No, it’s “the guy with the red shoes.” You can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive.

 

Speech codes on college campuses are very much a liberal mentality and policy !! Come on Chris, if you are going to blame the conservatives; at least make it something remotely connected to conservatives.

Victimization, Free, Conservative, — just a few of the many examples of words twisted beyond all belief. Now I know this isn’t just a liberal trait, some conservatives do it also. I just see it more on the left side of the political spectrum then the right side. How can we possible learn to get alone if we can’t even agree on the basic meanings of the words we use?

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